are their any really capoeira influenced bboys? - Page 3 - Bboy World Com

sleep2 · 05-22-2008, 06:46 AM

directly influenced? probably not. sounds like you should watch a few more clips and try not to blink next time.

Shankavelli · 05-22-2008, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by maxx00x

capoeira came to the states in the 70's.

none of clouds floor stuff look capoeira influenced...he was just really different and unique but i cant see his floor stuff being influenced by the mrtial art.

ive been a movie buff, and into the martial arts my whole life.
capoira aint break it big in the states until late 8o's , maybe 88 or something like that.
yea it came to the states in the 70s, i wont dispute that, but the media aint exploit it until the late 80's early 90's.
most the stuff in breaking comes from exposure to something else.here is a quote from another thread i contribted to on this forum..............

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Originally Posted by Shankavelli

ive seen a "backrock" in lindy hopping aswell. and there are similarities, but we must all understanfd that the resources we have now, original bboys didnt have back then. with the exeption of charlie rock knowing how to charlston, other moves and styles were strickly coincidental.
proof of this is a story that popmaster fabel once told me.
when the nigga twins came back on the scene for the rock and roll hall of fame thingy, fabel ofcourse drilled them with loads a questions. fabel asked them if the original bboys were inspired by capoira, and according to fabel the twins answerd... "never heard of him, whjat block was he from?"
nuff said

BBoyNoname · 05-22-2008, 01:08 PM

Anyone see when Pelezhino did a ginga against Sonic at BC One 05? Made me laugh a little.

I think its just a natural transfer for alot of people who try out Capoeira. I know my experience is I started doing it to work on balance and control for breaking. After doing it for a bit your body gets used to certain movements, so naturally they show up in your breaking whether you're trying to bring them in or not.

maxx00x · 05-22-2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Shankavelli

ive been a movie buff, and into the martial arts my whole life.
capoira aint break it big in the states until late 8o's , maybe 88 or something like that.
yea it came to the states in the 70s, i wont dispute that, but the media aint exploit it until the late 80's early 90's.
most the stuff in breaking comes from exposure to something else.here is a quote from another thread i contribted to on this forum..............

oh yeah, i read an article that interviewed ken swift and asked if he saw it when he came up and he never knew of it. it came to the states in the 70's but wasnt really noticed in the 80's..early 90's.

keeblagfxcrew · 05-22-2008, 04:17 PM

as a capoeirista for more then 15 years i have to let you guys know that capoeira came to the states(nyc) with a man named jelon viera. capoeira hit the west coast a few years later with bira almeida (mestre acordeon). capoeira always had a big following in both states but not the magnitude of bboying. capeoira is similar to bboying in the community aspect of it . we have our style , moves , contributions and old school ledgends. there has always been a upsergance of capoeira since day one and it is continuing to grow as we speak. just like bboying and any other culture out there.
i hope people out there dont misunderstand what others are saying ... just because certain bboys never heard of it or never seen it ,doesnt mean it DIDNT exsist. capeora has been here since the early 70s and has grown to enormous numbers around the world.

respect to everyone on this thread. keep it coming!

keeblagfxcrew · 05-22-2008, 05:14 PM

when i say im a capoeirista i mean that i have been CONSISTENTLY training and i also have my own capoeira academy in rhode island .

maxx00x · 05-22-2008, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by keeblagfxcrew

when i say im a capoeirista i mean that i have been CONSISTENTLY training and i also have my own capoeira academy in rhode island .

do u teach more angola or regional style?

dryphtdfx · 05-22-2008, 05:46 PM

keebla, that's so sick. i've always had the utmost respect for capoeiristas. i got nestor capoeira's little capoeira book, and the whole culture is mystifying to me. right down to the music and the chanting. my favorite thing about it is the concept of malicia(i hope i got the word right, it's been awhile since i've read the book, please forgive me if i'm wrong!). does anyone remember in one of the 7 gems videos when they go to brazil and perform with some capoeiristas that do angola style, and after they speak with ken swift about the similarities between the two cultures? that ish was ill. mad blessings to all y'all.

keeblagfxcrew · 05-22-2008, 09:23 PM

i teach all styles. i trained angola for 9 years and then moved into the benguela/regional styles of capoeira . i still teach and train all of the styles as part of a COMPLETE cirriculum.nestor capoeira has several great publications out on the market right now .
that video was from the 7 gems joint. the guy with no shirt on was a world famous angoleiro named MESTRE COBRA MANSA.he is phenomenal. check out you tube for several videos of him playing capoeira as well as doing lectures about in depth capoeira knowledge .

another good book to read is called :

RING OF LIBERATION
and
ART OF THE DANCE , FIGHT , GAME

if you want more history on capoeira and to check out some good discussions on it please feel free to check out Capoeira.com

dryphtdfx · 05-22-2008, 10:49 PM

yo thanks, keebla. i'm from a small town and the closest i got to trying capoeira was when i lived in toronto with groupo axe. the instructors name was bola. but it's really the culture and the history itself that intrigues me. good looking out.

keeblagfxcrew · 05-22-2008, 11:51 PM

axe capoeira from mestre barrao is a really good group. instutor bola is very good also ! man thanks for the positive replies bro . if you have any questions about capoeira please feel free to contact me .

SPINFACTOR123@AOL.COM

sleep2 · 05-23-2008, 06:29 AM

So Keebs, what's your take on the whole influence?
Cool to know when it came to the States, but I think most people who picked up on it did so when you did, about 15 years ago. The big 70's martial arts craze opened up the doors I guess, but you're not saying Capoeira was a part of that King Fu, Jujitsu, Tai Chi boom are you?

88' (like Ness said) to 90' sounds about right to me.

I almost wonder what bboy doesn't do some very capoeira looking moves these days , including freezes. I don't think you can do much more capoeira and still be bboying.