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Old 07-14-2009, 12:46 PM   #37 (permalink)
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its not hip hop anymore, nowdays it hip pop my son...
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Old 07-16-2009, 07:32 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Like said before,
Hip Hop is more than just the 4 labeled elements of Bboying, Graffitti, Dj and MC.
If you Believe hip hop can be summed under all those 4 labels than your wrong.
The dance element covers more than just bboying, theres popping, locking, oldschool, nu school, House and more.

The clip that this post originally was about i wouldn't really label it "Hip Hop" as in the Dance style, not HIP HOP the Culture which makes it a confusing thing. As the styles that i have mentioined above, they all have foundations. What was shown in the clip doesnt really have a foundation. It just borrows from other styles/labels of dance and not just hip hop, but jazz, Ballet, and more.

So it is politically incorrect to call it HIP HOP or associate it with the dance label "Hip Hop" as "Hip Hop" is already a dance style. Which is the style that the dancers from the ELITE FORCE from those clips posted earlier do. Some People call it Mainstream/commercial Hip Hop but again it doesnt have the "HIp HOp dance style" foundation. That's like making up a style called Mainstream Bboying, Or Commercial Bboying, Or Choreographed Bboying, know what im saying...

It's pretty complicated but simple. It's just the confusion between the culture HIP HOP and the dance style/label hip Hop.

Without writing a whole story, i wouldn't know what to OFFICIALLY call the style in the video. In partial it mite be part of the Hip Hop Culture, But it is not the Hip Hop Dance style.
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Old 07-19-2009, 01:33 AM   #39 (permalink)
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hiphop does not have to be just the 4 elements, look at the latest mr wiggles interview, look at this interview of house dancers YouTube - CALEAF.LINK.STRETCH 談論舞蹈 - ä¸*æ–‡å*—幕版本
hiphop is the attitude. if you eat cornflakes pancakes with a hiphop attitude then your living your hiphop.
dont limit yourself. if you like to dance and you see something you think is cool try to figure it out and incorporate it into your own groove.

in regards to the other tangent about commercialization. its just the byproduct of being popular, look at any large corperation like mtv, vh1, mcdonalds, coke/pepsi etc... if people didnt like it and buy it then they wouldnt be as large and as widespread and globalized as they are today. atleast the commercialization brought alot of the whole urban movement to other areas of the world that otherwise would never have encountered it.

apparently ive said most of what other people have so I guess I will comment on the shane sparks video.

Basically it takes from hip hop what shane sparks thinks are some steps that he has taken and made his own, and he shows people a simplified way to do it. the best lesson you could ever get would be going out and meeting people who really do it on the street like some people have mentioned ELITE FORCE but for all the 12 year old white boys, which I too was once, who are just going through a fad or whatever getting a video and learning a few simple steps can be fun.

I think the hiphop dance portrayed in that video is a synthesis of the street hiphop dance with mainstream dance.

dont hate, the people who are in it for the fad will come and fade away and the people who are really into always hang around

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