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| BREAKING DISCUSSION Discuss everything related to the dance we call b-boying |
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View Poll Results: Should bboying be considered a sport?
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Yes, it should be considered as sport
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No, it should be kept as just bboying
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04-22-2010, 05:26 AM
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#145 (permalink)
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there's no retarded opinions on this thread.
A retarded opinion would be something like "bboying is a french fry"
It is what it is,
everyone has their own view on what a sport is, even with the official definition out there.
To me theres no subjectivity in sports so i wouldn't consider it one even in competition.
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04-22-2010, 06:21 AM
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#146 (permalink)
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Dr. Richard Kraus, a researcher on Physical Education, wrote, "Dance is an art performed by individuals or groups of human beings, existing in time, space, force, and flow, in which the human body is the instrument, and movement is the medium. The movement is stylized, and the entire dance work is characterized by form and structure. Dance is commonly performed to musical or rhythmic accompaniment, and has as a primary purpose the expression of inner feelings, and emotions, although it is often performed for social, ritual, entertainment, or other purposes."
art /ɑrt/
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1. the quality, production, expression, or realm, according to aesthetic principles, of what is beautiful, appealing, or of more than ordinary significance. 2. the class of objects subject to aesthetic criteria; works of art collectively, as paintings, sculptures, or drawings: a museum of art; an art collection. 3. a field, genre, or category of art: Dance is an art.
i think the idea of having something defined as both art and sport is a little iffy. hear me out...
sports are definitely not arts and arts are definitely not sports, i hope we can all agree on that. what really defines a sport? the physical activity? the competition? and what defines art? here's my view...
ultimately, all art is subjective. different art pieces (dancing included) will appeal to some ppl more than others. which is why some ppl prefer some bboys over others - they appeal more to their eyes.we can say the same thing about paintings and so on.
now, can a sport be subjective? not really.... (thinking of soccer...... hockey.... basketball..... definitely not) ok, the exceptions will be the controversial ones, such as artistic skating where they're given different marks all the time - again, subjective judging! which is why so many ppl argue that it shouldn't be considered a sport.
to me, what defines a sport is that the skills are the only thing that bring out the winner - u get the ball in, u win! there's no need for a judge, u don't have to impress anyone, u get in there and u try to win!
there's a lot of physical activity that happens in jogging too... but that's considered a recreation, not a sport.
this is why i'm skeptical to saying bboying is a dance sport. that's a term invented to try to fit a dance into the olympics.
i dunno, i guess i never considered it a sport, really... never really thought about it, tbh. to me, it's just bboying. when someone says to me "hey ur pretty fit, do u play any sports?" i usually say "no, i just break"
meh, anyways, i'd rather go practice
much respect to everyone
peace!
ps: sorry if it's a long post.
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04-22-2010, 08:23 AM
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#147 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bboyglover
look at all the stupid sports in the olympics bboyin should def be in there....if ping pong entertains ppl imagine what breakin would do!
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damn all i can say is....dont come to our practice spot!!!we share it with ping pong tables. the ping pong there gets friggin intense......the most random ppl like "mini thugs" (thugged out 12- 14 year old boys) and your typical ed hardy douchebags who just finished bench pressing get into it, along with all the senior citizens etc.
ping pong can definitely entertain.
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04-22-2010, 08:52 AM
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#148 (permalink)
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Its both. This is the reason why bboying will never go anywhere. Everyone bickers about the stupidest shit. lol.
peace
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04-22-2010, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by y0ukeun
Wow seriously? Piano isn't a physical activity. That's what people on this forum have been arguing. Nice try though. You just made yourself look dumb in the end.
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Piano isnt a physical activity?? are you kidding me?
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04-22-2010, 10:45 AM
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#150 (permalink)
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Okay, one intrinsic difficulty. Bboying is very complex.
Like jazz, classical music, and underground mc's with intricate verses, bboying is complicated. The 'wow factor' is in headspins and airflares. That's why mass popularity is difficult with bboying. Pop music, radio rap, etc. is where the moneys at. How do artists make their money? The symphonies don't make money from their audience, that's for sure. They get grant money, tons of it from big ass companies and really rich people.
Sport is easy, simple to understand. Every idiot learns the rules when they're 5 years old. Whether you want to call martial arts or figure skating an art form, its very easy to understand. Bboying aint. Forget labels, just think about mass appeal. Classical music and jazz dont have mass appeal. The tricking part of bboying does, but you have to make sure that you have a method of bringing the audience past that. And when bboying is an olympic sport, and Lilou beats The End in a battle, think about how the announcers are going to justify that. 'Look at that slick footwork!'
Going back to dyzee's post, thats why its very very important that judging be done properly. Because if airchairs and airflares win all the comps, guess what? Everyone will follow the money trail.
So yeah, I'm actually into the idea of it being a sport, but the people at the top have to be real bboys. I know some of this has already been said.
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04-22-2010, 10:46 AM
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#151 (permalink)
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Also, the music, the beats have mass appeal. So we have that going for us at least.
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04-22-2010, 08:28 PM
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#152 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Speedster
Also, the music, the beats have mass appeal. So we have that going for us at least.
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"maybe a soul you'd steal to have mass appeal" -Guru
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04-23-2010, 08:45 PM
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#153 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swift Nyce
SWEET!!! what do i win???
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04-25-2010, 04:54 AM
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#154 (permalink)
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ok i think this thread ran its course.
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