Nbl Judging System - Bboy World Com

propsct · 03-11-2010, 07:25 PM

Hello everyone,
First of, i would like to congratulate "Back to the Underground" Dyzee, Lee and Drops for generating a successful test at the R16. I believe that their system will bring greatness into the world of breakin' and much more.

Secondly, I wanted to let everyone know about the NBL judging/scoring system known as Real Time Scoring (RTS). Our Release of the digital phase of the system will be released at a near future date (RTS-01) along with its first EDMS Product release documentation that will include all the necessary details in order to inform and educate you on how the game and the system works. As per its patent and protected certification, we will be able to publicly release these documents available for you to analyze and enjoy the system. We should expect its first release by early june of this year.

The documentation will be updated every 3 quarters during the year in order to keep up with what is evolving in our community. The documentation will also provide definitions and terminology as well as system workflow.

Thank you and have a great rest of the week.

erwin123 · 03-11-2010, 10:38 PM

looking forward to read it

breakdance101 · 03-13-2010, 09:20 PM

I am looking forward to this VERY much. I remember when I was there when Underground Movement was created before NBL with Chris =]

stellargiggs · 03-25-2010, 06:48 AM

following up on this, here is a recent interview we did with Jeremy "Props" Schweitzer, who was one of the people that create the Electronic Real Time Scoring system

capbboy · 03-25-2010, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by stellargiggs

following up on this, here is a recent interview we did with Jeremy "Props" Schweitzer, who was one of the people that create the Electronic Real Time Scoring system

Great interview by Props...lol "umm....ummmm....ummmm" hahah. That French just comes out regardless :-p

erwin123 · 03-25-2010, 11:26 AM

let me check

stellargiggs · 03-25-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by capbboy

Great interview by Props...lol "umm....ummmm....ummmm" hahah. That French just comes out regardless :-p

if you noticed, I tried editing out a lot of the "umm's" already!

haha...but I guess can't edit them all.

CrookieMobster · 03-25-2010, 08:21 PM

Alright. So Promoters get paid. good. bboys get paid? nope. if they lose they just go home empty handed. I suggest if this "sport" gets bigger you pay the teams to compete. spread the moneyyy maN!!!

EDSMASTER · 03-25-2010, 08:30 PM

Jeremy "Props" Schweitzer seems very honest in his approach to the NBL judging system. It also seems that the RTSS is identical to Dyzee's score system were for each round of the Battle the judges hold up a score to represent the value of the round. In Dyzee's its 1 - 5 and in RTSS its 1 -10 if I am correct? As a judge with NBL you are trained to score the round based on everything that is done, were in Dyzee's, you are a designated Judge who focuses on one specific aspect of the dance and gives a score in that round accordingly. It's like the RTSS is an upgraded version of Dyzee's approach. I like both approaches (NBL & Dyzee's) but my personal thoughts rest on approaching Bboy battles with more of a subjective approach in which after the battle itself instead of just giving a person a number for their combined rounds which is a good thing, I can also give them an exact description of the moves performed in each round of the battle itself.

stellargiggs · 03-25-2010, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CrookieMobster

Alright. So Promoters get paid. good. bboys get paid? nope. if they lose they just go home empty handed. I suggest if this "sport" gets bigger you pay the teams to compete. spread the moneyyy maN!!!

I think that is one of the goals for the NBL, to get as many bboys paid to dance in a competition as possible. Right now, it is still in its early stages, therefore you have to understand it may be hard to do.

dyzeesnd · 03-27-2010, 03:01 AM

Hey Pan. Just want to clarify that the RTSS is not the same as my system, although from the outside it may appear to be the same because of the scoreboard. Firstly, my system is NOT supposed to have scorecards. It was only like that during the testing because of technical difficulties. Each judge is supposed to have their own electronic console. Secondly, there is a reason why each judge is only looking at their specific category. thirdly, the categories are different from the categories of the RTSS. Fourthly, there is a specific reason why the scores are 1-5 and not 1-10.
All of these reasons will be explained in the release of the judging system in May.
I think all of us who are trying to bring out a proffesional judging system have the same goals and see the future benefits of having one. However, I just want to clarify with everyone that from my observation of our scoring systems, they are all completely different in theory, but have similar attributes.
What matters most is a system that best serves the bboys, the judges, the audience, and the integrity of the dance itself.

EDSMASTER · 03-27-2010, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dyzeesnd

Hey Pan. Just want to clarify that the RTSS is not the same as my system, although from the outside it may appear to be the same because of the scoreboard. Firstly, my system is NOT supposed to have scorecards. It was only like that during the testing because of technical difficulties. Each judge is supposed to have their own electronic console. Secondly, there is a reason why each judge is only looking at their specific category. thirdly, the categories are different from the categories of the RTSS. Fourthly, there is a specific reason why the scores are 1-5 and not 1-10.
All of these reasons will be explained in the release of the judging system in May.
I think all of us who are trying to bring out a proffesional judging system have the same goals and see the future benefits of having one. However, I just want to clarify with everyone that from my observation of our scoring systems, they are all completely different in theory, but have similar attributes.
What matters most is a system that best serves the bboys, the judges, the audience, and the integrity of the dance itself.

I hear you Dyzee, its just that I saw an obvious similarity in the fact that in both approaches, judges provide a score whether its 1 - 5 or 1 -10 after each round as a representation of their opinions. I believe any persons judging system can be made into an electronic console as shown by Jeremy "Props" Schweitzer, though my attitude about going electronic is that before such things should be done, (I have invested in the I.B.S.S. over 5 years ago as an electronic application as well), your system should be able to work equally as good on paper first, especially if you truly want to serve the overall Bboy Community Worldwide in rural areas who want to accommodate their competitions with your judging format but do not posses the funds or the technology to go electronic. I look forward to seeing your system in May...